Balkan people 'less intelligent'

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“They can be in France one day and be in Denmark 12 hours later … and it’s impossible for the citizens to feel safe.”But Romanian MEP Renate Weber dismisses Camre’s comments as “childish” and superficial. “I don’t think that Scandinavians are more Promotional Merchandise intelligent and clever than any others. It is true that they do have a welfare state, and they have a long-functioning democracy

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he French are different from the Danes, Danes are different from Greeks, and cisco ccna Portuguese are different from Finnish people,” he says, adding in the same thought that open borders bring a rise in crime.Denmark, like Germany, still refuses to open its borders fully to workers from new members states. “Today you have criminals VCP-410 from all of Europe who are travelling across Europe,” Camre’s says. “They can be in France one day and be in Denmark 12 hours later … and it’s impossible for the citizens to feel safe.”But Romanian MEP Renate Weber dismisses Camre’s comments as “childish” and superficial. “I don’t think that Scandinavians are more intelligent and clever than any others. It is true that they do have a welfare state, and they have a long-functioning democracy.“The truth is that they are in many respects 1Y0-A14 doing better than many European member states, not only Romania and Bulgaria

To Mogens Camre MEP

Personally I want to thank you for such comments which have made me your fan. I being from Balkans and being a proponent of unity and harmony between balkanian nations must say that such statement certainly plays my view a favor.

Keep them coming lol

Interesting fact that it is another Dane that makes xenophobic comments towards others (albeit nothing as extreme as the cartoon and no there will not be any fatwa declarations after this lol). And as anything there is some truth in what is said which should be an inspiration or was something else guiding logic behind such statements.

Virtual Balkans
http://illyria.proboards.com/

I read most of the user comments, and it seems many of the posters are shocked. Why are you people so surprised? The general populations of Denmark and Western Europe as a whole may not share this narrow minded opinion, but their governments certainly do. Ever since the Ottoman Empire fell apart, the ‘Great Powers’ have aimed at making the Balkans into an unstable and volatile region, and they’ve achieved that.

Now the almighty West has decided to start throwing ‘life lines’ by accepting us into the EU, but no Balkan nation will actually be perceived as a fully fledged EU member any time soon, Bulgaria and Romania will be viewed as ‘the outsiders’ for several years to come. This is exactly what the West wanted, and they are now beginning to reap the benefits of their virtual ‘slave’ nations that are fully dependent on them from practically all economic perspectives.

Camre’s comments are characteristic of a narrow minded individual that has a feeble understanding of history, politics, and just life in general.

If the Balkans had been left to their own devices over the past 100 years, only then would Camre’s comments be accurate, however we all know that that hasn’t been the case.

"The final stage of a mortal combat between mankind and capitalism is in progress. A specificity of capitalism is that, in contrast to "classical" barbarism (which is of destructive, murderous and plundering nature), it annihilates life by creating a "new world" - a "technical civilization" and an adequate, dehumanized and denaturalized man. Capitalism has eradicated man from his (natural) environment and has cut off the roots through which he had drawn life-creating force. Cities are "gardens" of capitalism where degenerated creatures "grow". Dog excrement, gasoline and sewerage stench, glaring advertisements and police car rotating lights that howl through the night - this is the environment of the "free world" man. By destroying the natural environment capitalism creates increasingly extreme climatic conditions in which man is struggling harder and harder to survive - and creates artificial living conditions accessible solely to the richest layer of population, which cause definitive degeneration of man as a natural being. "Humanization of life" is being limited to creation of micro-climatic conditions, of special capitalistic incubators - completely commercialized artificial living conditions to which degenerated people are appropriate".

This is not intelligent civilisation. It is not a civilisation, because civilisation works for own people, not against them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8058076280074432701&hl=en#

How DARE you say that about Balkan people. That is the most arrogant, racist, conceited, and egotistical piece of sh*t I've ever heard! Just because the Balkan region has not had the most...favorable history, that still gives you NO right to directly say Balkan people are stupid and "less intelligent." You damn Western European people can be so f*cking stuck-up, you probably get that from the damn Americans. You can go ahead an insult America all f*cking you want, but the Balkan by NO MEANS deserves to be affronted in such a thoughtless and insensitive way. I am part Greek and Romanian, so I am not here to insult this bullsh*t you made up, I am sitting here defending my homeland. I think you're the one who's "less intelligent", Mr Camre.

How DARE you say that about Balkan people. That is the most arrogant, racist, conceited, and egotistical piece of sh*t I've ever heard! Just because the Balkan region has not had the most...favorable history, that still gives you NO right to directly say Balkan people are stupid and "less intelligent." You damn Western European people can be so f*cking stuck-up, you probably get that from the damn Americans. You can go ahead an insult America all f*cking you want, but the Balkan by NO MEANs deserves to be affronted in such a thoughtless and insensitive way. I am part Greek and Romanian, so I am not here to insult this bullsh*t you made up, I am sitting here defending my homeland. I think you're the one who's "less inteligent", Mr Camre.

This guy's comments are abhorrent! So very vividly recalling the incredibly stupid comments of XVII - XVIII travelers from "the West" touring the Balkans! Same idiotic language and rhetoric generalizing people, history, looks, clothes, traditions, language, with the permanent superiority complex, as if these people invented the wheel or democracy (or did that actually take place in the Balkans?!)
Luckily, this is not what most of Danes or Scandinavians think like! There will always be superficial, fascist-sounding, racist and judgmental politicians in Western Europe who will benefit from the ignorance of their voters about "us others" just to gather up political support! I wouldn't anyway take particularly seriously any comment coming from some "democratic" politician who still lives in a kingdom and pays taxes so that the queen can have several hounds and a myriad of hunting horses! WAKE UP!

I cry when I hear such a patriot who are representing all that is good in Denmark speak out.

Too bad that he choosed to retire now. I would have voted for him any minute.

the pictrure is serbian you stupid fuck

@Xander: I did hear that there is quite a bit of croonism here, even in small enterprises (e.g. cleaning agencies). Also, there has been a number of high profile embezzlements cases since I've lived here, and the guilty parties seem to be getting away with it regularly (or getting a slap on the wrist by the courts). Politicians have also gotten away with quite a few "bending of the rules." I wouldn't be surprised if a whole lot of incidents simply didn't get recorded in the criminal statistics here. In my own life, I've seen quite a few "sweeping under the carpet" and "covering each other's butts" behavior, and I am wondering how accurate the statistics are!!! People get away with things here that would get you fired on the spot where I come from. Even worst, such statistics get used by DF to promote a sentiment of superiority towards other ethnic groups. Come on...

@ RoseYou wrote: "But what is said about the lack of corruption in Denmark is true. It almost is'nt excisting, though I see why this can be hard to believe, but true!"

In Debmark you have to know some one who knows some one to get somethings. Tell me how many immigrants have the same access to equal jobs and housing as native Danes? (before you answer check the facts). Corruption has many levels and faces, and in Denmark you have your fair share, but manifested differently and specially against the immigrants.

A big head filled with void. The void is talking. F... fascist!

Well, the problem is that nationalistic fundamentalists like this piece of crap do not only exist in Denmark, but pretty much everywhere else. "Romanians and Bulgarians have not created a healthy society themselves." First of all, I would ask not only Danes, but any citizen from a western nation, who says that eastern European countries are not at their own level, to tell me, in kilometers, the distance between their country and Russia. We all know this is the actual problem. The fact that mr. Camre thinks that he lives in a "healthy" society relates to the fact that he is more "intelligent" is a clear sign of lack of intelligence, and shows the impossibility that this ... person will ever understand problems of such complexity.
He says we and the Bulgarians are bringing an unhealthy influence in the EU? I say idiots like him are bringing a medieval-type way of thinking into the Eurpean Union. I don't know who is less evolved here...

I don't think that the issue is corruption or lack thereof, Rose. Many EU politicians talk openly about corruption in various countries without characterising a nation as stupid. Mr. Camre brings no useful contribution to the debate with such an attitude. What is worrying is the apparent support for populism at the grassroots in Denmark, often expressed with such turns of phrase as: "I am not a racist, but..." "I don't vote for the DPP, but..."

E.g. "but we are so much civilized/evolved/smarter than "they" are." But, but, but...

Im am a Dane, and as most of the danish people, I definitely do not share Mr. Camres opinions. But what is said about the lack of corruption in Denmark is true. It almost is'nt excisting, though I see why this can be hard to believe, but true!

Another interesting contradiction is how Mr. Camre suggests that giving more power (seats) to smaller and richer countries like Denmark because of some presumed ethnic/intellectual/moral superiority would improve democracy in Europe. Since proportional representation is a condition of democracy, such a system would not be a true democracy: it would be (ethnic) neofascism. What else can we expect from eurosceptic populist movements, really?

Mr. Camre is suggesting that Europe should become an ethnocracy, which would go directly against its economic and political interests. Eastern Europe's integration is necessary for Europe as a whole to remain competitive in the world market. It would be beneficial to develop industries in Eastern Europe instead of losing jobs to Asia, which is much further away. The development of Eastern Europe would gradually strenghten the region's inner market, to the benefit of all Europeans.

Mr. Camre is a man without vision, who believes that Denmark can stay the same forever. It is not so. As an export nation, Denmark has everything to win in nurturing ties with larger neighbours. Ethnic epiteths are hardly the sign of a wise man.

Europeans: beware of right-wing populism!

Mogens Camre is a member of the Danish People Party, which itself emerged from the Fremskridtparti (Progress Party). The latter was openly xenophobic. The DPP adopted a different approach, which consists in sugar coating its statements and camouflaging its xenophobic motives befind a veil of political correctness. This allowed them to gain grounds, as they made their nationalist policies sound more acceptable to the working class and the elderly.

If you read Mr. Camre answer above (Mogens Camre MEP - 12/05/2009), you can see a typical example of this spin doctoring. Let's not be fooled: the DPP is a full-fledge right-wing party, which feeds on deeply-rooted prejudices at the grassroots, and its main motive is none other than keeping non-Danes out of Denmark (the "Denmark for Danes" ideology). Mogens Camre is not in a position to call anyone "reactionary," but then, there is an inherent contradiction in being a "PC right-wing party." Goebbels would be proud.

A few quotes from Mr. Camre can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People's_Party#The_popularity_of_DPP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLyWR9bMVw

My Dear Mr. Camre, I have nothing better to add than: YOU ARE TOTALLY RIDICULOUS!!!!

I live on the Balkan and everything that mr.Mogens Camre said about the corruption, low standard of living, coruption is acctualy true (except of course the stupidity of the Balkan people). So let as not foolish that we are leaving in a dream world. Now some will say that there are the dificult circumstances of the Balkan history full with hatrencies and wars and that is the main reason of the situation in which are the balkan states. But I can say only one thing about this, the world is how is gona be made by ourselfe. So if the Skandinavians have made their little paradise on Earth, I don't see a reason for the Balakans not to do the same.

Maybe you should try reading a book before you make such ridiculous statements. I suggest you start from Maria Todorova's "Imagining the Balkans." As a Bulgarian historian fluent in 5 languages (hard to believe, isn't it?) and publishing in the United States, she is able to deftly develop the following argument - the notion of the Balkan people as illiterate vagabonds is in fact a figment, an invention of Western (Northern European nations, against which the construction of a positive image of these "civilized" countries has become possible.

The Balkans are just the most recent epicenter of homogenization conflict in Europe. Western Europe's homogenization has taken place since the crusades, the reconquista, the expulsion of Jews from England, and so forth. In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries the turning of peasants into Frenchmen, the unification of Germany and Italy, the Holocaust, the repositioning of Poland, and the recent hostility to immigrants suggest that the drive to create ethnically homogeneous states is not exclusively a Balkan phenomenon. Western/Central European democracy took centuries to become even a possibility, and throughout that time, millions of people lost their lives.

Just because Denmark is a more ethnically homogenous country than my native Bulgaria, does not mean you have the right to sneer at Balkan people. Just because your history was less turbulent does not mean we have a lesser right to decide Europe's future.

Maria Stankova, musician

Mr Camre,
I you were an intelligent politician yourself, learned in European and World history, you would have known that the fate of some nations has not been entirely in their own hands. What Europe did to Bulgaria after WWII is outrageous! You could have taken us out of the Communist Block but who cared about that at the time?
But no matter... now, we are building a common future. And I find your wording scandalous and outrageous. I would suggest that you read Claude Levy-Strauss before pronouncing yourself on the intelligence and cleverness of this or that people.

Hi,my name is Tomica, I am a half Serbian, half Croatian and full origianlly Balkans!!As I can recognize, photo that is used in the article is actually a print screen from the Kusturica movie -Black cat, White cat-. It's nice to see a little piece of illustration from successful movie director.. and BTW. We invented an electricity ( Nikola Tesla), so can we be a full EU member one day?? Please

I am from bulgaria and for teh first time in my life i hear such a big shi* .How you dare to tell all this untrue things. Scandinavian are the most un-flexible people i have ever met, they are all the time IN THE BOX and can not think out of it. denmark is well structured and stricked country but WITH STUPID PEOPLE. bulgaria and rumania has too corrupt ministries that is why they are on this level, BUT PEOPLE ARE MUCH MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT THEN SCANDINAVIAN , ..... and one question for you mister : who invented the computer ????? now u sit and think if you can of course, who is stupid here..

For Anonymous: First of all, I am Romanian and I lived all my life in the Balkans.
Second: We are only HISTORICALLY retarded, not anthropologically. The problem is not only "the lack of intelligence", but the different historic evolution of the balkan peoples. When was Denmark invaded and occupied by Eastern peoples like Russians or Turks? We just escaped, 20 years ago, from a Soviet occupation which drawn us back in Middle Age, both economically and psychologically.
Therefore, building a "healthy society" is not that easy for the former communist countries like Romania and Bulgaria, which shortly before communism were occupied by the Turks.
These nuances have been omitted by the Danish political man,
who is nervous for the revival of these countries and for their come back to European family. In his opinion, they should remain "second-hand" countries in United Europe, since they are so retarded. It is not fair and arrogant to treat newcomers that way... That's all!

There are many nowadays thinking like Camre. Publicly expressing these ideas is at least childish on his part. What Camre doesn't seem to understand is the GREATNESS OF THE EUROPEAN CHALLENGE today: to use al the cleverness available to overcome all the political and cultural divide. And to slowly re-build, WITHOUT WARS, a large democratic EUROPEAN NATION (based on today's modern principles), inside the old ROMANIA ('http://www.romanity.org/friesian/romania.htm').
To me this idea is so inspirational! And sometimes it makes me wish I completely changed my life to become a part of this process. It may still seem utopic for many like Camre, but it was possible before (in a diff. world under diff. conditions) and it lasted very very long. The 'good guys' got it very far this time, and I am confident they will succed again!

THat is not true. You cant tell that every one is stupid in general. Probably you know that Bulgarian man discover the computer Jon Atanasov. It seems that Bulgarians are not stupid they are in the opposite side . SMART!

Mr. Mogens Camres,
What you have said about Bulgarians and Romanians is scandalous and it well reveals the general attitude of Danes towards other nations in general. It is true that both countries have problems with corruptions and I, as a Bulgarian, know that we have a lot of work to do towards achieving a healthy society. After the fall of the totalitarian regime we have passed through a lot of difficulties but I have to admit that we put a stress on political and economical improvements and though, the pace is slow, we turn to a better society.
What I really think is a problem of the today`s world is the intolerance towards other nations and particularly the lack of tolerance of Danish society towards other nations. For a nation to be in a disposition to allow freedom of choice and behavior of other nations is not enough to make plain statements in media about the humanitarian helpfulness or integration practices. It is really unacceptable for a developed country like Denmark to declare itself working in support of peace, human rights, tolerance, mutual understanding and respect for diversity and in the same time the reality to prove it in the opposite direction. I live in Denmark quite enough to understand that Danes need to work on their acceptance of other nations.
It will be appropriate in this case for a politician to make a public excuse and to take his words back but I personally believe that this will not be so much dictated by honest human motives but much more by the political pressure of fellow countrymen who better realize the wrong movement that you, Mr Camres, have made. Even though, you have tried to amend your statements by clarifying what you really meant, we all know what stays behind these words. As to the statement that some nations are cleverer than others, this is subjective and dependent on the Nature.

Lazarova

Mr. Mogens Camres,
What you have said about Bulgarians and Romanians is scandalous and it well reveals the general attitude of Danes towards other nations in general. It is true that both countries have problems with corruptions and I, as a Bulgarian, know that we have a lot of work to do towards achieving a healthy society. After the fall of the totalitarian regime we have passed through a lot of difficulties but I have to admit that we put a stress on political and economical improvements and though, the pace is slow, we turn to a better society.
What I really think is a problem of the today`s world is the intolerance towards other nations and particularly the lack of tolerance of Danish society towards other nations. For a nation to be in a disposition to allow freedom of choice and behavior of other nations is not enough to make plain statements in media about the humanitarian helpfulness or integration practices. It is really unacceptable for a developed country like Denmark to declare itself working in support of peace, human rights, tolerance, mutual understanding and respect for diversity and in the same time the reality to prove it in the opposite direction. I live in Denmark quite enough to understand that Danes need to work on their acceptance of other nations.
It will be appropriate in this case for a politician to make a public excuse and to take his words back but I personally believe that this will not be so much dictated by honest human motives but much more by the political pressure of fellow countrymen who better realize the wrong movement that you, Mr Camres, have made. Even though, you have tried to amend your statements by clarifying what you really meant, we all know what stays behind these words. As to the statement that some nations are cleverer than others, this is subjective and dependent on the Nature.

Lazarova

I wonder how many forign languages do Westerners speaks, besides their mother tongue? And that says it all as far as I am concerned.
I am a the moment at this huge international conferences, and nobody is able to stand up to me, German or other type of European.

And even if we were less intelligent ... well, tough. I will amuse myself watching the ,,hardships,, the poor westerners will have to go through. cry babies, they are incapable of walking a mile in our shoes.

tada

As far I can see, the level of intelligence of Mr. Camre is far below that the average intelligence in the Balkans, otherwise Scandinavians are nice people, some of them are even as intelligent as the people in the Balkans...especially the Icelanders, they are extremely successful in the last months...I wish to all of you, Scandinavians, the same economic and financial success as the success of Iceland...sincerely yours from Sofia...

P.S.

Let us not forget that Mr. Camre was a happy subject of the Third Reich, and it obviously contributed a lot for the formation of his background!

"Sadly, this is the arrogant perspective on most of Western citizens toward their unlucky fellows from Balkans: stupid, retarded, dirty and inconvenient. "

Lucian, have you ever been to the Balkans? That IS how it IS.

Besides, I don't think Mr. Camre is talking about our personal intelligence, but about our societies as a whole - and the truth is that we, as a group, are retarded.

An answer in German was given through the blog of the talented Bulgarian journalist I v o I n d z h e v.Due to secular lost opportunities post communist countries are exposed to different ways and challenges...but efforts to avoid not enough developed capacity must make decision over ruling elites and not over the old Europe....

If it were not for these "less clever" people Mr Camre, where you are living would not be called a country but a province of Nazi Germany.
There is a big difference between being clever and civilised and rich for that matter. Specially if the richness i coming from cooperating with the winning side of the 3 years of war (Germany) and the opposite side at the end of the war to get Marshal Aid. And having the privilige of not (accidentally) being de facto occupied by another country.
Why don't you stick to getting your own (and your kind) butt out of EU than trying to keep others outside it?

I have compared comments of Mr. M o g e n K a m r e and that of our northern neigh - b o u r,as Anonymous certainly!!!
More over will add to my comment in German through the blog of Mr.I v o I n d z h e v some others in English,Spanish etc.
It is a key question and Danish people will not regret,or enjoy wrongly misunderstood courage of his representatives,which concern secular lost opportunities to approach Western and Human civilization!!!

Dear Mr. Camre,

First, thank you for responding to this thread. However, I cannot hide my surprise at your words.

You say that you have "actually never expressed a word about the intelligence of Romanians. I have never been asked about that topic or any other similar topic.", and yet in the interview, in a clear and explicit matter, you said "honestly speaking - that we are more clever than they are". You do then talk about establishing a "viable" and "healthy" society. There are two problems arising from this. First, even if you do not comment the intelligence of Bulgarian and Romanian people, on what grounds do you consider that you have been "more clever"? I would urge you to get acquainted with local history and conditions more thoroughly, rather than limiting yourself to "scapegoat" comments. Second, do you think your attitude is worthy of a representative of a "healthy society", both in your current conduct and in your previous comments about Islam? Do they reflect liberal, democratic "health"?

Furthermore, I gather from your post that you have been to Romania, and you talk mostly about Romania. However, I am not sure if you are well informed about Bulgaria, or if you just assume that both go together? That is not to say we don't have common problems - in Bulgaria, there is corruption and crime. However, can you as "honestly" as you did in the interview, tell me that there is no corruption and no crime in Western Europe?

I believe that you, in your role as an MEP, know the history of the EU. How do you think the UK, France, and Western Germany looked upon you in 1973?

Additionally, how much influence do you believe votes in the EP have? It is an important organ, no doubt, but I am sure you are aware that real power resides in the dual executive, where the principle is one state, one member, and where Denmark certainly has more influence than Romania and Bulgaria.

I would also like to question your assertion that there are 27 nations in the EU. In the era of globalisation, is there such a thing as nation-state, and what significance does it have left? Second, I am sure you are aware that political culture is a notoriously difficult concept to apply.

You say that you "hope the EU will have a positive impact on the development of Romania and Bulgaria - and I hope that the political impact will not go the opposite way". Do you think that adopting a 25 + 2 view of the EU actually prevents such positive impact?

Last, nobody in the EU is "ruled" by anyone others' administration, and certainly not through the EP. Do you think Bulgarians and Romanians are "happy" to be ruled by YOUR administration (or by anyone else's for that matter)? Do keep in mind that since 1993, this has been an European UNION - your political convictions may be eurosceptic and intergovernmental, but the EU of today should be an union, even if there are power relations under the surface.

I would like to invite you to Bulgaria, if you haven't had the chance to visit our country yet.

I also want to apologize for the tone of this comment, as it is based solely on your interview with the RFI. I am sure you are a competent and able politician, but I cannot leave your comments without at least some response. I believe you will understand my motivation.

I would be very thankful for an answer and I am open to criticism (as long as it is not on my intelligence:) ).

Sincerely yours,

Ivaylo Iaydjiev

(On my blog, I have posted a more detailed response- http://salvatorestyx.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/eu-and-eastern-europe-in-v...)

Your superiority complex feeds xenophobia and intolerance Mr. Mogens Camre. It seems your communication people read and respond to this article and the comments posted here. If you had good PR or bothered to listen to them, you would be more careful on how you express your views of superiority. I lived half my life in Communist Romania and I am the first to tell you that the political class and process in Romania are dominated by the legacy of that bleak period, down to some of the very individuals at the top of the system now, who are themselves former intelligence officers (Securitate) and communist party members. Yes, the system is broken and the first to suffer from this are my own people. But I can also tell you that the EU bureaucracy is also an ineffective, wasteful, at times self-serving, and somewhat corrupt machinery. Except it seems that sophisticated, white-gloved corruption disguised as serving the best interest of a superior set of people, the new political aristocracy and plutocracy of Europe, is acceptable. The unwashed masses from the East can go to rot since they are not worthy of sharing the table with the elevated northern Europeans seems to be your view and message. Your beliefs and discourse are worthy of an SS officer, so perhaps you should make clear your options and join one of the growing numbers of extreme right, racist and xenophobic movements springing up in your civilized part of the world. As for me, I can only laugh at the pretense of moral higher ground some European politicians such as yourself espouse. If you are so superior when was the last time you did something constructive to help those less fortunate then you learn and move closer to your high standards? When was the last time you invested time, effort and money (funding, not your own money) into training programs, exchanges, to ensure that the younger political class of the East and the West find a common voice and divorce themselves from the corrupt and questionable, unethical practices of their predecessors? You will earn the right to criticize anyone in any way you see fit once you take some constructive action and make a concerted effort to help change the current state for the better. Until then, you come across as simply a bigot who needs to buy a big bunker and hide from all these undesirable outsiders. Respectfully yours, although you said and did nothing to earn respect.

Sadly, this is the arrogant perspective on most of Western citizens toward their unlucky fellows from Balkans: stupid, retarded, dirty and inconvenient. Until these unfortunates stayed outside EU, it was convenient to treat them with condescendence, but now, they have become a threat for "Europe landfathers": wow, they behave like nations, they disagree with us, they want a place to our table! Outrageous, isn't it, mr.so-white-and-clean-and-clever Danish boy?

Mr.Camre's Danish Peoples Party is not part of Denmarks ruling Liberal/Conservative coalition, although they do support it.

The Danes, are you feeling represented by this guy? If what he's claiming is not the vision of the Danish people, how a specimen like this was elected to represent you in the first place? Corruption, maybe? Obviously not, since this is "virtually unknown" in your country. Yeah, right!
For my Balkanians: I know some Danes, they're great, not like this guy. Don't be angry at them, please. Just ignore the mad man, they're everywhere.
For Mogens Camre: I prefer corruption to extremism. At least the first is human.

This Camre guy is so affraid of any culture that is not nordic/scandinavian and want to protect their "culture" from any thing outside.
He is just forgetting the fact that he would today go attacking and plundering villages, killing their men and raping their women in other civilised part of Europe/world, if his viking ancestors had the same kind of mentality a 1000 years ago.
They changed BECAUSE the got influenced from outside world specilly Balkan. But of course som individuals never change, no matter what.

Relax, he never said anything about intelligence. What he says is that there are huge problems in those countries like corruption which is virtually unknown in the Scandinavian systems and that a lot of the former communist oppressors/rulers are still on key positions. This is objectively true!

Wealth and intelligence, two different things mr. camre
But there are always 'odd' trees in the forrest

As a dane, it is very important to empasize that this is NOT the view of most danes.....Camre has caused several controversies with his stupid comments in the past.

Sorry, where were you during the world war? Say again? How many casualties did you have? Oh, 9 (nine)? Ok
It's easy to stay neutral and build your healthy society with a hand of people.

I have actually never expressed a word about the intelligence of Romanians. I have never been asked about that topic or any other similar topic.

I have certainly said that Romania is corrupted and backwards compared to Western Europe. That is what all of the European Parliament says. I suggest that you read the latest report on discharge to the EU Commission in which the European Parliament states that the entry of Romania and Bulgaria was based on incorrect, positive evaluations made by the Commission.

I have also said that we are much more clever in establishing a healthy and viable society than Romanian politicians - and on that background it will have a negative impact in the EU decision making proces that countries like Romania and Bulgaria have more votes than Denmark and Sweden.

The situation in countries like Romania and Bulgaria has nothing to do with intelligence - it is linked to the political culture which of course is influenced by many years of dictatorship. I hope the EU will have a positive impact on the development of Romania and Bulgaria - and I hope that the political impact will not go the opposite way.

I have been to Romania several times, both as a diplomat and as a politician. A beautiful country with beautiful people. But I am happy not to be ruled by your administration.

Sincerely yours,

Mogens Camre MEP